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I was intending to caucus this Saturday, but the precinct finder can't find me under my current or my old zip code. I did get a primary ballot in the mail, so apparently I have only halfway disappeared from WA's voter registry.

I've emailed them, but two days before the caucus I'm doubtful that I will get useful assistance in time. At least it affords me an excuse to use my Saxon icon (for those who are going "wtf??" it's a Doctor Who reference).

And finally a PSA: if you're voting Democrat and want your vote to matter, you have to caucus, this Saturday from 1-2:30pm. The primary vote doesn't count. Yeah. The stupid it burns.

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x_bluerose_x
Feb. 7th, 2008 05:38 pm (UTC)
Isn't it a thing of beauty? :D
jeliza
Feb. 7th, 2008 05:42 pm (UTC)
Think of it as an opportunity to vote your conscience entirely without guilt about "electability" in the primary. (I wonder just how many people we could get to vote for Kucinich....)
maxomai
Feb. 7th, 2008 05:50 pm (UTC)
Try http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/register.aspx to register. If that doesn't work, contact one of the local offices for the Presidential campaign of your choice. (Of course, I'm partial to Obama.)
sheistheweather
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)
Say what...?
jnanacandra
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:46 pm (UTC)
Is that a general exclamation of disbelief, or a request for clarification? If the latter, what part?
sheistheweather
Feb. 8th, 2008 01:17 am (UTC)
Clarification... What do you mean the vote won't count?
tzaddi_93
Feb. 8th, 2008 01:39 am (UTC)
We have both a primary and a caucus. The democratic party only counts the caucus results in how they award the nomination delegates. So, voting in the primary as a democrat is pretty much a waste of paper, time (and postage if you vote absentee.)
sheistheweather
Feb. 8th, 2008 01:40 am (UTC)
Wow...that's bizarre.
emmacrew
Feb. 8th, 2008 03:56 am (UTC)
Something like 20 years ago there was an initiative that said "Washington State WILL have a presidential primary." So the state has to hold the primary. But the political parties aren't bound by initiatives, so they're free to assign delegates however they want, and for whatever reason, they chose caucuses (though as noted abovebelow, the Republican party has lately been using the caucus to determine a varying percentage of the delegates and the primary for the rest).

I imagine the state is annoyed at having to put on and pay for an election that's effectively a beauty contest.

Edited at 2008-02-08 03:57 am (UTC)
ladydrakaina
Feb. 8th, 2008 04:55 am (UTC)
having been at the committee meeting where this issue was debated for... hours, many many hours... I can tell you that the Democratic party views caucuses as a means of party building, it gets people personally involved and talking to their neighbors, and makes people more likely to be involved in the process later, oh yeah, I met the district president at my caucus in February, I liked her, I'd like to work with her more and do some doorbelling for the party! I know it sounds silly, but it does work that way, and therefore provides incentive for the party to keep the system in place
emmacrew
Feb. 8th, 2008 06:20 am (UTC)
Oh, absolutely. I'm not saying the caucuses are a bad idea so much as "it's a pity they have to spend the resources on the primary, too." My husband became a PCO at the '04 caucuses and is now treasurer for the Democrats in the 41st LD, secretary for the 8th CD, and doing a lot of website/technology stuff both in the district on up through the state level.

I find this particularly amusing since in 2000 he attended the Republican caucus (trying to get some support in for McCain, who he's now horrified by) and because he doesn't really like to make phone calls or talk to strangers, and yet, here he is doing all this stuff. He's even convening our area caucus in a couple of days, which entails getting up and talking to a room full of people. His parents think his wacky liberal Berkeley-born wife has corrupted him. ;-)
ladydrakaina
Feb. 8th, 2008 06:30 am (UTC)
my you are a terrible influence :D
jnanacandra
Feb. 8th, 2008 01:56 am (UTC)
Basically the caucus vote is what decides where WA's delegates go. The primary is "non-binding", which is a nice way of saying "pointless", as far as I can tell. Though I suppose the popular vote numbers could be used to try to predict which way the state's vote will go in November.

This is only on the Democratic side; I gather that on the Republican side, half the delegates are decided by the caucus and the other half are decided by the primary.

Election law. You don't even have to squint for it to make your head hurt.
sheistheweather
Feb. 8th, 2008 01:57 am (UTC)
No joke.
cos
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:16 pm (UTC)
Don't they have a number you can call to ask?
ef2p
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
She avoids the phone. The best choice would be your county elections office.

You can also try http://www.smartvoter.org or http://vote411.org (both League of Woman Voters)
tzaddi_93
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:34 pm (UTC)
Ugh. I fucking hate caucuses.
ef2p
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:42 pm (UTC)
I'm not sure caucuses are a bad idea.

I work the poll here in California. I see so many voters vote blindly. Their friend told them to vote for x. Or they are carrying a 'voter information card' that they got in the mail. I got those cards too, there was no real way to figure out who was behind them. The sponsor was something like the 'Responsible Voting Coalition'.

In a caucus, you are forced to sit down and talk about the issues. People are aloud to speak their view in an attempts to change your vote. You are allowed to try to convince other to change their vote.

Over all I think caucuses result in voter being better informed before they cast their 'vote'.
jnanacandra
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:51 pm (UTC)
I'm of mixed feelings. I dislike that there are many people who are disenfranchised if their work or home situation doesn't allow them to get to the caucus location; but the extra work that people have to go to to get to one would, I think, help the people who do caucus be more interested and, as you say, informed about what they're doing. It becomes less of a strict democracy that way, but then again I've never been sure that strict democracy was significantly different from mob rule.

This Saturday will be the first time I've been able to participate in a caucus; it will be interesting to observe the process.
jnanacandra
Feb. 7th, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)
To clarify, "the stupid it burns" is referring more to having a primary vote at all if the delegates are all assigned via the caucus.
emmacrew
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:53 pm (UTC)
Try: http://41dems.org/gmap/caucus.html where you can put in your address and it will tell you what your precinct is and where it meets.

If that fails, let me know your name and address (email emmacrew@yahoo.com) and we can find you. My husband has all of the state precinct data, and the state voter files, and all that stuff (the 41dems page is his projects).
litch
Feb. 7th, 2008 08:41 pm (UTC)
Check here

http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/auditorapps/RegConfirm/VoterReg.aspx

failing that, have someone call

425-388-3444 or 425-388-3700 (tdd)
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