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Think the local politicians will still be bitching about the cost to fix/replace the viaduct?

I didn't think so.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5019944.html

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emmacrew
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:01 am (UTC)
Well, the Loma Prieta quake, with the collapse of the Cypress structure and damage to/removal of the Embarcadero structure (made by the SAME COMPANY as the viaduct in the same timeframe, using same construction) didn't seem to have made people realize it had to go, so I'm not sure this will, either. :-/
heronguy
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:07 am (UTC)
Add to all of that: built on the same damned sawdust landfill.
emmacrew
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:11 am (UTC)
Seriously, what *were* they thinking? I guess the fact it's held up this long says they weren't completely on crack, but...
mlerules
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:05 am (UTC)
Not if they follow the news, that is.
heronguy
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:06 am (UTC)
Yes, sadly, they probably will. The Loma Prieta quake wasn't enough; the fact that if the Nisqually quake had lasted another 12 seconds it would have been an instant-replay of Loma Prieta wasn't enough. I really don't know what it will take for the viaduct replacement to become a priority.
emmacrew
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:08 am (UTC)
I think it's pretty much gotta fall down.
heronguy
Aug. 2nd, 2007 06:30 am (UTC)
Right. Being as I am a West Seattlite who has to use the viaduct on a real regular basis, I have this recurring fantasy of the city replacing it with something viable (NOT surface streets) BEFORE the next big earthquake.

I know. I'm delusional.
emmacrew
Aug. 2nd, 2007 06:41 am (UTC)
That would be a wonderful thing. But looking at how they've managed light rail, sadly I suspect it's going to go kersplat before they quit arguing.

You could always do what my friend Kathryn does, and sing lullabies to the giants beneath to ocean so they stay asleep whenever she has to drive on the viaduct...
heronguy
Aug. 2nd, 2007 06:53 am (UTC)
Um, yeah. At least they're actually building the light rail, sort of. Unlike some other form of mass transit which was approved by the voters FOUR TIMES...

(Bitter? Me?)
ef2p
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:11 am (UTC)
I'm confused. You assert that the politicians were complaining about costs related to the bridge. Then the article talks only about what happened today. Where are you getting information that 'the local politicians' were 'bitching about the cost' in the first place?

I'm not saying you are wrong. I am just saying that you have provided no evidence to back your statement.
emmacrew
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:13 am (UTC)
The cost-bitching is about a Seattle-area structure that seems poised to do something similar.
ef2p
Aug. 2nd, 2007 01:20 am (UTC)
Ahhhhhhhh. Now I get it. Local knowledge which I am not aware of. Make much more sense now.
heronguy
Aug. 2nd, 2007 06:40 am (UTC)
It's a Seattle thing
Emmacrew wasn't referencing the article. "The Viaduct" she and I and Shimmeringjemmy are babbling about is a stretch of Hwy 99 which runs through downtown Seattle, lovingly known as "Embarcadero North". Remember the double-deck highway that pancaked in San Francisco during the Loma Prieta earthquake a few years back? That was the Embarcadero Expressway. During Seattle's last major earthquake (Nisqually, 2001) the viaduct was pretty badly damaged, but they did a seismic retrofit as sort of a bandaid. Now, it's continuing to "settle". There are several proposals right now to replace it (tunnel, new bridge, or surface streets), but they have all become quagmired in the local and state legislature.
quetz
Aug. 2nd, 2007 07:07 am (UTC)
Actually, yes, I think they will; They'll just take it down to prevent the city from suffering lawsuits from the victims, and not replace it because nobody's willing to pay for it.
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