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On a lighter note....

Because I'm curious.

Poll #634679 How do you pronounce...

Thelema?

thuh-LAY-muh
21(56.8%)
thuh-LEE-muh
11(29.7%)
Other (elaborate in comments)
5(13.5%)

Baphomet?

BAFF-oh-met
30(83.3%)
BAFF-oh-may
4(11.1%)
Other (elaborate in comments)
2(5.6%)

Enochian?

ee-NOH-ki-an
32(88.9%)
ee-NOCK-ee-an
4(11.1%)
Other (elaborate in comments)
0(0.0%)

Goetia?

goh-AY-shuh
16(45.7%)
goh-EE-shuh
14(40.0%)
goh-EH-shuh
3(8.6%)
Other (elaborate in comments)
2(5.7%)

Tarot?

TAH-row
20(54.1%)
tah-ROW
12(32.4%)
Other (elaborate in comments)
5(13.5%)

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( 12 comments — Leave a comment )
plymouth
Dec. 16th, 2005 02:31 am (UTC)
On the first one - thuh-LEH-muh. Rhymes with "dilemma".

Not that, ya know, I really have any basis for knowing. That's just how it always sounds in my own head, never having heard anyone speak it.
lordandrei
Dec. 16th, 2005 02:34 am (UTC)
While it's not one I use....
I've also heard : THELL-uh-muh
00goddess
Dec. 16th, 2005 10:45 pm (UTC)
Re: While it's not one I use....
That one makes me cringe. It just sounds wrong.
divineserpent
Dec. 16th, 2005 03:03 am (UTC)
Is the poll referring to how I pronounce the word or how it should be pronounced?
jnanacandra
Dec. 16th, 2005 09:03 am (UTC)
How you personally pronounce it. People tend to disagree on the latter :)
incendiary_ave
Dec. 16th, 2005 05:01 am (UTC)
wandered into your journal from your cute kitty icon. ;)

My pronunciation of many of these words is severly fucked altered from being around too many non-Americans.

Thelema often ends up "thel-e-ma" or "the-lee-ma"
Baphomet "ba-fom-it", "ba-fo-met"
Goetia "go-et-ti-a", "go-ee-sha"
Tarot "ta-row" (hard "A") or "tear-row"

I don't think my pronunciations are correct, they just are. ;)
paulrhume
Dec. 16th, 2005 05:30 am (UTC)
baf-o-MET, in many cases (like the scansion in the Creed seems to demand the accent on the MET).

Goetia is go-EE-sh(y)a, but Goetic is go-EE-tik (ie. aspirated t in Goetia, hard in Goetic).
princekermit
Dec. 16th, 2005 08:22 am (UTC)
TAIR-oh (to rhyme with FAIR - or Pharoah)
lordandrei
Dec. 17th, 2005 06:18 am (UTC)
What?
Not teh-ROW (to rhyme with Perrot)

I just wanted to do that to make it rhyme with failed, past, politicians :)
princekermit
Dec. 19th, 2005 02:32 am (UTC)
Re: What?
My bestest friend in the entire universe says it that way.

And she has 950 of the damn things.
rev_blacky
Dec. 16th, 2005 02:32 pm (UTC)
Crowley's word was Thelema (The Crowleian pronunciation is Theh-LEE-mah, the accent bewatching on the vowel of the second syllable, Greek speakers ay the accent should be on the vowel of the first syllable for it to be pronounced right....ThEH-lee-mah) - which means [free] Will.

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Baphomet

The legendary "God" of the Knights Templar, Baphomet is described by Ritual Magician Eliphas Levi as a symbolic intermingling of opposites. Some believe the name derives from the Arabic Mahomet, wisdom, others believe it is a Kabbalistic cipher for the Goddess Sophia.

Although there are rumors, nobody really knows what the Templar Baphomet looked like. The popular image of a grotesque goat-headed creature is Levi's interpretation, based on hermaphroditic grotesques on Templar chapel decorations. Often mistakenly identified with the Satanic emblem, the Goat of Mendes.

Pronunciation: baff-oh-may • (noun)

Also...

Encyclopedia
Baphomet [băf'umet]
Pronunciation Key

Baphomet , idol or mystical figure that the Knights Templars were accused of worshiping in the 14th cent. Apparently the name was unknown before that time in Western demonology. Its origin is disputed: it may have been a distorted form of Mahomet (Muhammad); it may have been of Greek origin.

I personally prefer the first pronunciation...

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In the Book of Genesis, Enoch or Hanoch (חֲנוֹךְ "Initiated; dedicated; disciplined", Standard Hebrew Ḥanoḫ, Tiberian Hebrew Ḥănôḵ) is a name shared by two individuals named in the Genealogies of Genesis The genealogies of Genesis record the descendents of Adam and Eve as given in the first book of the Bible, Genesis.
"To Enoch was born Irad. Irad became the father of Mehujael. Mehujael became the father of Methushael. Methushael became the father of Lamech." Genesis 4:18
Cain later founded a city which he named Enoch (Genesis 4:17-18).

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Goeteia (goēteia, γοητεια) is an Ancient Greek word for "magic, witchcraft, jugglery". Goēs means "sorcerer" or "quack". probably related is goētēs "wailer" (Aeschylus, Ch.), ultimately from a PIE root *gevh2 "shout, howl".

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Tarot (Tar-oh), also (Tair-oh), two encyclopedia and dictionary pronunciations...
I prefer TAIR-oh...

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Aren't you glad I'm a linguist?
00goddess
Dec. 16th, 2005 10:45 pm (UTC)
I think either pronunciation of "Thelema" is correct, in light of modern Greek.
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