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You know you've been too deeply buried in the Order when....

you need to write an email to someone outside of it and find yourself stymied for a greeting since you can't use '93' (well, I could, but they would get quite confused, which is non-optimal in this case).

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tavalon
Jan. 20th, 2004 06:12 pm (UTC)
You might want to take that as a hint. Anything taken to an extreme can be a cult. And that coming from a dyed in the wool pagan.
jnanacandra
Jan. 20th, 2004 10:28 pm (UTC)
Hmm.

Well, first off, if I were in any danger of getting cultishly involved here, I doubt I would have stopped to consider *not* using the Thelemic greeting. I have been doing a lot of in-the-Order emailing of late, and I was amused at the brain-fart that happened when I shifted patterns. That's all.

Secondly: yes, any belief taken to an extreme can become a cult. This can be applied to many things, like, say, dislike of our beloved President (I hate him too, that's not the point). Or being convinced that the medical establishment is covering up widespread mercury poisoning in children. Or disliking Thelemites because of a bad past relationship with one. All of these are perfectly valid positions, that, given things that have been said and done, could be perceived as evidence of fanatical belief.

I don't accuse you of fanaticism or cultism on any of these points, because a) I don't know what thinking lies underneath what you've said about them; b) it's not my business; and c) from my personal experience with you, I like and respect you. I had once been under the impression you liked and at least somewhat respected me.

It's quite possible I shouldn't be bothering to write this at all, but you've made a number of comments in the last year that imply you think I'm immature and/or can't think for myself. Such criticism isn't exactly constructive; and if my impression that you don't think much of me and my choices anymore is correct, why do you take the time to criticize at all?
tavalon
Jan. 20th, 2004 10:53 pm (UTC)
I had once been under the impression you liked and at least somewhat respected me.

Sorry, I have a problem with impulse control. I do like and respect you.

It's because I care that I respond, but applying my past and my background to you and your situation is not valid.
mrlogic
Jan. 20th, 2004 06:30 pm (UTC)
Usually in an email I just use

Name:

or (rarely)

Dear Name:

or sometimes

Hi Name!

but I have not the slightest idea in a bucket of ovaltine what you mean by "93", so I can't say what would be an appropriate equivalent, really...
lordandrei
Jan. 20th, 2004 10:19 pm (UTC)
Hi Blake... What 93 means...
... can be sort of understood from a post I made here
mrlogic
Jan. 21st, 2004 09:08 am (UTC)
Re: Hi Blake... What 93 means...
>93 is the kaballistic (numerological) equivalent of "Thelema"

Thanks, Andrei; that is a sufficiently complete explanation!
mrlogic
Jan. 21st, 2004 09:19 am (UTC)
Re: Hi Blake... What 93 means...
And, by the way, nice post.

And I can't, on the face of it, come up with a non-Thelemite e-mail greeting that quite carries the same flavour. Probably isn't one. A closing, perhaps, might be findable.
contentlove
Jan. 21st, 2004 07:11 am (UTC)
Yes, I think you've nailed it. Too deeply buried. Climb out now!
sphinxie
Jan. 21st, 2004 08:57 am (UTC)
On the other hand, at least when you write to people outside the Order you don't have to look up the proper modes of address for their degree.
shaska
Jan. 21st, 2004 09:24 am (UTC)
Maybe someone should write a backwards Gematria searcher in English for numbers just like they have anacronym searchers for names. That way, there will always be an itsy-bitsy something in the greetings.
Hi! = 75
Hello! = 41
Greetings! = ummm... ?!.. oh, scratch that. 8)~
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